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August 25, 2008

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Don From Fl.

This show was the worst I have ever seen. Basically if you work hard and don't bother to watch your Gov. and have money to throw great birthday parties for your kids is the end all answer.I believe in free trade but not when the countries we are dealing with are abusing and exploiting their own people so your birthday balloons cost less. If you don't know what I'm talking about try reading. Next issue the war,last I checked those idiots in pink have the right to be idiots in your opinion according to the constitution. 9/11 and the war is a whole other bag of worms, most Americans know exactly what happened( except the spin doctors you work for) try reading again. Stick to what you do best entertain people like clowns do.Your expert from the CATO inst. is just another special interest based voice.I used to watch this show religiously but not anymore. Good luck with those birthday parties.I have an Idea why don't you two do Bil Maher's show see what your really made of,because I think you really showed your true colors with your world peace show.

Jari Latvanen

Your BullShit just aired here in Finland.
Not many have commented.
Probably I am in the wrong page then.
The point is that your conclusion is wrong.
World-wide trade is ok and probably ensures
world peace. But most wars are faught for the resources
that make the commodities to be traded freely.
So free trade alone does not make peace.
Ownership is the key.

This is not BullShit, is it?

Jari

dan

you people are retarded penn and teller are the shit theyre obv a lot smarter than you are. laaammmmmmme

François

The comment above is why i don't like penn & teller anymore. I'm an atheist and skeptical, and i really really think is a good idea to spread free-thinking, and i used to like peen&teller. But that fucking (i'm really angry) episode is no free-thinking, skeptical or atheist or scientist or... nothing, just ideological shit (as many other episodes, but this is the worst). But i'm sure most of penn&tellers' fans think that it's cool, that being skeptical is cool, that arguments ad hominem is cool, that being against everything is cool, but of course, as it's a fucking show on TV, they never realize what self-free-think, scientific method, edition manipulation and other stuff is about. They become more ignorant that before, believing they're smarter. Just see what they learn: "you are retarded", "they are a lot smarter". Why they don't make an episode of massive destruction weapons i invade your country to bring "democracy" while i suck your petroleo bullshit?

Aune

Francois! Your comment obviously comes from a smart individual. However I think you are wrong to think that this episode does not promote scientific thought.
Read this: http://www.igi-pub.com/files/prefaces/ijec%20preface%204(2).pdf
It may make you chew on Penn & Teller's conclusions, if the conclusions are presented differently :)

"But most wars are *fought* for the resources that make the commodities to be traded freely. So free trade alone does not make peace. Ownership is the key." I get what your thinking but I don't know if we have the same definition of "free trade". Ideally, the country should produce these desired resources for a global market to enjoy while increasing revenue for the exporting country. We wouldn't be battling for oil if we could buy it; and the reasons this hasn't/isn't taking place has very deep religious and political reasons. What is supposedly happening there is that the US is coming in to get the oil, to sell and profit from. This isn’t cool, and not what free trade or international trading has in mind.

To everyone else: I don't really think any of you have really critically examined your arguments. Congrats, you are just like all the other liberals and you fear exploitation. Oddly enough we have problems getting cheap labor from other countries, but when NAFTA was put into play and the US's regulatory standards were less than Canada, Canada had this option to exploit the US workers as cheaper labor, and from the US workforce point of view, this was some good news. (More jobs, some of them paying better)

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Well... world peace is something most of us would love to see as a reality, but I think it is kind of impossible, considering that conflict is inevitable in the social intercourse! We can't avoid it, just try to reduce it to the maximum.

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